Self Care Strategies for Life Coaches

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Hey there, fellow life coach! Let's talk about something super important: taking care of yourself. In this blog, we're diving into some awesome insights from the podcast "Unlocking Your Coaching Potential: Strategies for Growth and Self-Care," hosted by Daniel Fernandes and Dr. Sheri Fluellen. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just starting out, these tips will help you prevent burnout and keep your mojo flowing.


Prioritize Self-Care to Prevent Burnout


Self-care isn't just a luxury; it's a vital component of sustaining your effectiveness as a life coach. Preventing burnout begins with prioritizing your own well-being. By integrating self-care practices into your daily routine, you can replenish your energy reserves and cultivate resilience in the face of challenges.


Embrace Challenges with Self-Compassion


As a life coach, you're no stranger to challenges. Embrace them with a mindset of self-compassion. Recognize that it's okay to face obstacles and setbacks along your journey. By approaching challenges with kindness and understanding towards yourself, you can navigate them with grace and emerge stronger on the other side.


Navigate Emotional Terrain with Empathy


Life coaching often involves navigating complex emotional terrain. Understand the importance of emotional intelligence in your practice. By developing empathy and fostering emotional awareness, you can forge deeper connections with your clients and support them more effectively through their own emotional journeys.


Forge Connections in a Supportive Community


No life coach thrives in isolation. Cultivate connections within a supportive community of fellow coaches. Surround yourself with individuals who understand the unique challenges you face and can offer guidance, encouragement, and camaraderie. Together, you can share insights, celebrate successes, and uplift each other during times of struggle. This is why we have developed the Coaching Mastery Community. It is a community of like minded coaches focused on making a difference in the world. For more information and to explore a community of like-minded coaches, visit Coaching Mastery Community.


Commit to Lifelong Self-Care


As you embark on your journey as a life coach, commit to prioritizing self-care for the long haul. Recognize that self-care isn't a one-time fix but a lifelong practice. By nurturing your well-being, preventing burnout, and fostering resilience, you'll not only sustain yourself in your coaching practice but also empower yourself to make a lasting impact in the lives of others.




Embarking on a journey of self-care as a life coach is essential for preventing burnout and sustaining your effectiveness in guiding others. If you're eager to explore these strategies further, I invite you to listen to the podcast The Coaches Journey Podcast, Daniel Fernandes and Dr. Sheri Fluellen share invaluable insights and practical tips tailored specifically for life coaches. Tune in and nurture yourself as you continue to empower others on their transformative journeys.



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Coaches nation. Hey, it's Daniel here. I'm here with Dr. Sherry Flewellen and I'm Daniel Fernandez. And we are going to have an amazing podcast for you today, all about challenging clients and challenging clients is something that many coaches, a struggle with, or B don't actually do much.

Because there could be a variety of reasons. Maybe you are a little bit not confident in challenging that client. Maybe that client is like better than you at this one thing. So you don't know how to challenge. Maybe, maybe you're not good at challenging in your own life. So you need to step up your skillset and challenge, but whatever the reason that you challenge or [00:01:00] don't challenge in your life, today's podcast is going to be amazing because we're going to talk about all the different components and ways to challenge your clients, how to do it, why it's important and different ways that we've challenged our clients.

So you're going to get a lot about it. You're going to probably get five or 10 tips on how to challenge in different ways. I bet you at least two or three of those you haven't thought of or haven't done recently enough. And we're going to be pulling from our clients that we have either failed to challenge or challenge really well.

So quite frankly, our own experience, because there have been plenty of times when I've been challenged well, and I'm, I'm not in the mind space to be challenged. So like, I think we can self reflect a little bit on what's worked for us.

So, so this is gonna be a really exciting podcast. If you haven't yet joined our school community, this is an amazing community for coaches.

We are moving our entire community off of Facebook. We have so many members there, but we want to take advantage of the features of school and Facebook is really changing, so we're gonna be talking about that more in, in our content on school, but like, [00:02:00] why Facebook is changing, why we're changing as a result, if you wanna be part of an amazing community, coaches that really care to serve and wanna make an impact and wanna help other coaches succeed.

Collaboratively, then a school is an amazing community that you need to consider joining. In the meantime, Dr. Sherry, are you excited for this podcast? Yeah, you muted yourself. You're so excited. You press mute by accident. I

didn't, I pressed the mute. I'm so excited because there I like, I even can reflect back on yesterday.

I had a discovery session with a couple and and, and the whole thing was she was being. Like she is, is at an emotional, overwhelmed state, but she's challenging herself and she's not sure how she's going to manage. And I had both her and her husband on, and so I was, I was getting to work with both of them.

And, and then he challenged me about challenging her. Like it was really, it was really fascinating. And I want to know what

happened. Like, can you give a little bit of details? Like how that, [00:03:00] like that dynamic happened.

Yeah, absolutely. So the short version where she's at is she's an investor, real estate investor, and she had another business and, and she's jumping into this.

She has a history of having a very low confidence based on kind of how she was raised and she has been seeing a therapist for years and years and years and years. And the challenge they're at is that. She says she acknowledges she has more tools in her tool belt to help with anxiety to help with boundaries with her relationship with her, her parents and these sorts of things, but she's still not at a place emotionally where she wants to be.

And so she's feeling overwhelmed, even though she continually adds things to her plate. So she's like, do I, you know, I'm challenging myself. Am I challenging myself too much? Like, can I take this? And then the husband. Then also reiterated, you know, [00:04:00] like she's already been doing these things and she's made some progress, some growth, but not as much.

So how is basically, how is coaching going to be any different? Like, how are, how would your process help her actually move further than she has? He challenged

you right at the beginning.

He did. Well, this was towards the end. And so, Of course, he asks me this question and, you know, we're already slightly over time and I'm like, thinking to myself, how am I going to like, instill confidence super quickly?

And so but, but this is why, from my perspective, this is why clients. Work with want to work with me and probably most coaches is that they want to be challenged, meaning they want to grow and their ability to challenge themselves and their ability to grow at the rate at the level they want is insufficient to what they want.

They know they can do more. They know, and they're looking for that support. So. Our role in our [00:05:00] job, I think, is to challenge most of the time. I mean, I think there's some situations where it's, it's not about challenge, but I think when you, I think about the growth and the arc of a coaching journey, which is exactly what this podcast is about, the coach's journey.

This is, it's about, it's about challenging ourselves and our clients.

Yeah, I love that Sherry. And I think, I think challenge sometimes as a word, sometimes as a negative connotation, sometimes it gets a bad rap. Oh, he challenged me. Oh, it was like, this is so challenging. But in this context, what we're talking about today, if we talk about like what we mean by challenge, challenge doesn't mean like, like threatening.

It means having your clients see something they might not have wanted to see, or maybe it means pushing back on a client. Maybe it means helping them see a path forward that they couldn't they couldn't really, you know, they didn't want to commit to or helping them reminding them that they're capable of more, you know, challenging is like, kind of like.

[00:06:00] Asking people to step up in a way they might not have stepped up if you hadn't said that, right? Or if you hadn't done that, that's kind of the definition.

Agreed. But I will say Daniel, that when you said this isn't about like threatening, what I've experienced though, is sometimes when sometimes my clients or potential clients are challenging themselves appropriately enough where, but they actually trigger that threatening like response in them because they don't have necessarily the mindset or the tools That can undergird their own level of challenging.

So they're like, they're challenging themselves and re and then like kind of regretting it because now they'd be

themselves. Yeah. Yes.

Yeah. So, so we're not, I'm certainly not trying to trigger the fight or flight response in my clients, but they're pretty good at doing it to themselves. And, and so one of the things I've noticed, I've had quite a few sessions Entrepreneurs recently, and the theme [00:07:00] is overwhelmed because of their own level of kind of challenging themselves.

And so it's like taking that fight or flight that they've created and figuring out how to deactivate that or harness that in a way that's, that's going to work for them instead of kind of, you know, working against them.

Yeah, but I get, you know, his question to you is how is that going to be any different with you?

Challenge is part of the equation, but I can see how using a coach would actually be completely different. Especially if a coach is going to walk you through the step by step of what it is that you're creating and what you need to spend your time on and what you don't and how to cut those things away and how to manage your


These are things that, you know, I would say most therapists aren't like. You know, versus in time management specifically, but they can help you get to the place where, you know, you need to do time management and there's some therapists that do probably work in time management, a coach, a time management piece is, is useful and more likely for a coach to be able to help with that.

So I can totally see like a piece of that, but it's the people think time management is a challenge where [00:08:00] it's actually not time managers, priority management and knowing what you want and all these things. There's so much more to it, but part of it is the process you're going to take into it. If somebody asked me that question at the end of session, I'd say like, well, let me ask you this question.

How was this session different from everything else you've ever done? That's a great question. On their challenge, right? How did I

handle it? Well, honestly, I what I explained is that you know, throwing a bunch of tools at a, at a problem can be helpful. And I actually gave him kind of some examples for my own life about my own journey as becoming a mom and getting overwhelmed because of a perspective that I had of who I should be based on what my parents were.

And so that part of this journey is her really. Solidifying and identifying who she wants to be and I, I, how I talked about it is that she's measuring herself to her parents ruler, and she [00:09:00] needs to come up with her own measuring stick and what she's measuring herself against rather than taking somebody else's.

And so I said, when you change your perspective and what you're measuring against that, that's not just like a quantitative change. It's a qualitative change. And so that's, that's kind of how I framed it. Thanks.

I love that. And something we were talking about ahead of time is part of challenging is listening.

Yes. Part of challenging is listening because you can challenge all day long without listening. You're not really challenging. You're just spouting.

Yes, and I had this, so I had this experience just a few days ago. I was part I was a member kind of slash facilitator, a co facilitator of a mastermind.

And in a traditional mastermind, what it is, is everybody has a chance. Most people have a chance to be to be on the hot seat. Like, oh, I'm going to be on the hot seat. What are you struggling with? And we share a little bit about what, what we're struggling with in our business. And then there's clarifying questions.

And then there's people just, you know, getting to offer their [00:10:00] perspective or, or or they can challenge or they, whatever it is, like everybody gets to participate in whatever makes sense. And there was 1 person that was participating by providing information to 1 of the other people and they just went from listening to the problem.

To like, kind of advising and like saying, well, have you, did you think about this and this and this and this? And I was like I remember thinking like, there was a whole lot of questions and assumptions. Well, there's a whole lot of assumptions that happened that this person never really clarified or asked about or whatever.

They just like, how do you know they haven't even tried that? Or that they haven't thought, you know, like, I just noticed that there was this huge leap. You know, in thought process that happened with this other person, and they're not a coach. So I, you know, I get that they don't have they're, they are literally a business owner that's participating in a mastermind.

But it, so it was interesting seeing that dynamic play out because they weren't, they [00:11:00] weren't listening well enough to, like, ask the questions to fill in the gaps. Which,

which highlights actually the difference between a coach and I'm, I was going to say a regular human, but coaches are really good at coaching and non coach is the way that you, that you listen and challenge because a coach, a coach's way of challenge is different from the general public's way of challenge public's way of challenging is like, I need to tell you that I'm right.

You need to do, here's my advice to you, even though you didn't ask for it. And I don't know anything about you. I don't know what you really want in life, but do this. That's kind of like what people think challenging is. And that's just, it's not effective because it creates resistance, which kind of brings us to another point that we talked about, which is like, where's the mindset of the person that you're challenging, right?

That's a really, and Sherry touched on this, like knowing the right time to challenge and the right time, not to challenge. Or how to get people to a place where you can challenge them because everybody needs to [00:12:00] be challenged. That's why they're here. Right. At least that, but they might come in. This happened to me literally yesterday.

I had a client who came into session and they were super, super discouraged. It had been actually it had been a while since our last session. And they came in and they were just like very, very discouraged. And they, they were stuck in like, this is not going to work. This house, how am I going to do it?

How's this like not going to work? And it, it took actually a really long time and I tried a whole bunch of things, some of which worked, some of which did not work. And eventually I felt a little bit of a shift, like there weren't, they weren't as negative and it was enough for us to move into a little bit of brainstorming.

So somewhere along the way, I challenged a little bit, but I was struggling because it was, sometimes you have to take your time and I didn't want to take my time because Because we only had a limited time together. And so like, I wanted to, I wanted to get them moving forward. And there's a, there's a piece of patience that's evolved.

That's what I'm getting at is that


had a sense of impatience within myself, which I was aware of, which is why I tried to take my time more. [00:13:00] But I could sense that it's like, I wanted to move faster than the client's emotional being was ready to go. And so when I do that, my tendency tends to be, I tend to go find something intellectual.

So in that moment, I actually started with the opposite, which I was really proud of. I have to acknowledge my, my tendency there and be like, why am I impatient here? Let me get out of my head and try to get back to their heart. And so I, so I spent some time acknowledging them for all the work they have done.

I spent time explaining, like, you've been in hard situations before, haven't you? And we talked about them and had them talk about things that they've accomplished. And they, you know, eventually started saying some things, but there was a long segments of pauses, right? There was a long segments of pauses and later in the session, I learned they were actually muting so they could shed some tears.


and I was like, well, you know, that, and it's like, we've tried together and tested for like, you don't have to be embarrassed about where you're at. Like you shed your tears with me. Cause that's, that's like, I need to know where you're at. And I acknowledge you and I respect [00:14:00] the journey that you're on these tears that you've shared with me in the past and today too.

That's really important. Like acknowledge that it's hard. It's super hard. Like there's no, there's no simple solution to this, right? If there's a simple solution, you would have done it. Right. But you're on this journey for a reason, because they have something big they're trying to do. Right. And so acknowledging and getting them to like feel heard and listen to, I was a part of that process.

It took me like 40 minutes. But I think the way that I was able to get that was to feel like I got them to a place where we could brainstorm. I didn't feel that until that point.

Yeah, no,

I think me as a coach, but I had to be patient and I, I don't think I was patient enough. Because at one point I actually use this tactic, which actually does work sometimes, which is, Hey, if there's somebody else, who's easier.

Exact situation. What would you tell them? And there's a long pause. We have to give them a name. We may have a name for this person. And that was still hard. So that one didn't work. So I had to shift gears and try a bunch of other things. But you got, you got to try a bunch of things to get your clients at the place where you can challenge.

I [00:15:00] think that honestly is probably one of the biggest, I would say is maybe one of the biggest takeaways for myself as well as hopefully for our listeners is assessing their readiness to really actually be challenged. And and so I'm just thinking about even in myself 1 of the biggest challenges that I have right now for me is my health.

My thyroid has been off for a while. It's I've been aware of it now for about a year and I'm still trying. Like, I still don't think it's where it needs to be. Which is that impacting my energy. It's impacting how I feel. It's impacting weight, it's impacting all these things. And it's just like, it's something I've been frustrated about for quite some time.

Well, I'm in this women's group. Of entrepreneurs and and we meet every couple of weeks and it's interesting because there's actually another coach in this group as [00:16:00] well. And. I've noticed that she jumps to problem solving very quickly because I'm here in this group and I, you know, I will shed tears.

Like I, this is still an issue. I'm still frustrated. I'm still trying to like, why is my healthy eating and tracking all of that stuff? And, and my exercising I'm doing like, it's not sufficient like it used to be. And I'm just frustrated. And so then, like, she's brought up, Oh, well, this is the exercise program that I'm doing.

And then another 1, another 1 of the gals will jump in and she's like, Oh, well, this is the, the nutritionist, you know, weight loss group that I joined, you know, whatever. And my readiness for that information is, is so not there because I'm overwhelmed. I'm frustrated. Yeah, I, you know, I, like, there's. No, in my mind, there's no reason why what I'm doing shouldn't be working.

Like there's still some hormonal stuff that has to be. And so it's just interesting because [00:17:00] I'm like sharing this stuff, but I feel like I'm getting that intellectual, as you're talking, I'm getting these intellectual you know, ideas back, which is not where I'm at. And it's not addressing what I need in the moment.

And so I think our ability to, to attend to and recognize where our client is emotionally, are they, have they processed where they're at enough and are now they open to the logical problem solving, or do they still need to deal with the emotions, the guilt, the overwhelm, the shame, the you know, whatever, whatever the grace, you know, the, the beating up yourself of oneself.

Whatever is going on, like when that's still fully present, I don't know that the, at least with a lot of the women now, maybe, I don't know, there could be a little bit of a gender difference here with kind of the, the man problem solving versus the woman problem solving. What do you think, Daniel?

So first of all, Sherry, I want to just really acknowledge what [00:18:00] you just said.

First of all, being vulnerable on a podcast like that, I respect that you've given other people like that view into yourself that can be inspiring to them, but also sorry, you're going through all that. Like that. That does not sound fun. And one of the reasons I say that is because I really mean it, but the other one is because I'm demonstrating something that you do before you go to give people advice.

Yeah. Right.

Which is, you know, I need to be okay with that. But also it needs to be said, Sherry, like you're going through a hard time. It's not fun. It's not easy. There's no simple answers. And that's overwhelming and that's going to affect everything in your life. No simple way. No, no other way to put it.

Right. That being said, now here's, so if I was coaching you, like the thing my brain did, when you started talking about it, I was like, Oh, thyroid, how can I look up thyroid online and find out where's the reasons, where's the book? And like, that was the, I have a, I have a conditioned pattern in the past that I would do that.

And if I haven't slept well, sometimes that comes up stronger. I haven't eaten well, sometimes it comes up stronger. So your old conditionings will come up when you're not taking care of yourself. Another part of challenging is self care.


Interestingly, but [00:19:00] if I'm in a good space or I'm being more conscious or intentional, I can not, I can just put those thoughts aside and come back to the person in front of me.

And what are they going through? Be with them, be with them, make sure they are there knowing that you're being there being with them. And when we get through that and Sherry has come back on the other side of that, then we can start talking about like, what's your next step if we want to, maybe this, maybe there's, maybe there's more to cover.

Maybe there's like, tell me a couple of things that really have made a difference if anything, or, you know, what would you, or we could even talk about the people in that group and say. What would you like for their response to have been, and then do you want that to change in that group? There's so many different ways we could go with this.

Are we working on thyroids? Are we working on health? Are we working on group dynamics and influence? Are we working on you just like handling yourself? Are you working on you being productive and making this into a project in your life? There's so many different ways we could go with this and knowing your client, what they actually think is important is part of that journey.

Right. And so, so like [00:20:00] whatever it is we were deciding, basing it on what's important to the client, knowing what matters now. And having a sense for that will help you get to the place where you're going to challenge the right thing to

absolutely and challenging the right thing, or, you know, and I don't think it's like there is the right thing but challenging.

It in a way that's the most healthy for the client at the moment. Cause I, going back to this whole like health journey, I have a nutritionist, dietitian gal that I meet with periodically. And I remember towards the beginning of my meeting with her, just crying and being frustrated and like, you know, like beating myself up.

Like, why isn't this work, you know, doing all of the self pity things. And she challenged me. And it was not in the way I expected. Her challenge was this is hard. How can you have more grace on yourself? And I was like, Whoa, what? Because I'm so used to like, yeah, the tactical problem solving, like that's my mode too.

And so sometimes the [00:21:00] challenge Isn't really like moving forward per se, but it's, it's, it's around acceptance, like challenge and acceptance or challenge and you know, just sticking with the mass right now,

taking the breaths and being with that problem and being okay with it and being recognizing that it's part of your journey.

And it's, it's, it's a challenge that you need to rise up to, but it's not, it's not the thing that needs to do really your, your, your sense of being well being. Absolutely.


I love that. And actually you're making me think there's a, there's a framework is like a step by step here. Number one is acknowledge, right?

And number two is go for the emotions, emotional first. Yeah. Right. Not just acknowledge, but like respect those emotions, honor those emotions and then make it okay. And lift that person up in that moment, just as a human, right? Like together in that relationship, that connection. Then figure out what [00:22:00] is most important to them and work towards that in whatever, wherever you go next.

What's important about this, given what you know of this client, like if you know that this client needs to take some grace and some self care, and maybe that's where you go first, right? That's on the emotional side. Right. I would say, but it could also become tactical. You'd be like, what's the one thing you need to do?

Let me ask you, Sherry, what's the one thing you need to do to give yourself grace on this? Right. Yeah. Like, can you answer might as well?

The one thing I need, you don't have

to, you don't have to.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm like put on the spot, but not asking permission for


But yeah, but that's where we could go. Right. Yeah. And then, then that's when the brain, that's when the ideating starts in the cloud. Now you're in a positive, creative space, right? That's the question to share, to demonstrate, like, if you're in that space where grace is like, okay, we accept the means to give ourselves grace.

Now, how could we do that right now in this moment, but like after the session, maybe as a practice, maybe as a habit. So that's, that's like the transition to now you're [00:23:00] in a positive creative space. And now that you've given yourself grace and you're going to give yourself grace, now you're more equipped to be able to handle whatever's coming at you.

And so then this session, or maybe next session, we can talk about like, what is the project of the thyroid going to be about different aspects of that? We could do, we could do. Let's, let's pick one and experiment with that one as the top priority experiment, right? But that's where we could go with that now that you're positive and ready for it, right?

Yes. And let me, let me just put a little neuroscience to what you were saying to just to come at it from a different perspective. And that is like, when we are highly emotional, our amygdala is where our emotions reside. That's where and, and that's kind of kind of overwhelm Every other process in our brain.

And so we, in order for us to problem solve effectively, we have to find ways for our emotions to settle down a little bit, instead of feeling like this, this big ball of overwhelming this. And so once our emotions settle down a little bit, our prefrontal cortex, which is where our decision making, our logical thought process, prioritizing all of that [00:24:00] sort of stuff happens.

That is able to now more effectively. Be activated. So literally, if we are way too emotional to being, you know, in the moment, it's overriding our ability to be logical. It's just like our, if you're trying to challenge somebody when they're overwhelmed, it just adds to the overwhelm. So there is this, this flow.

From highly emotional to feel to having like a different perspective, feeling those emotions aren't overwhelming and then being able to shift our brain literally into problem solving mode, which then allows for more creativity in the problem solving. So I just kind of wanted to speak to that those processes that happen.

Love that. Totally agree with that. Sure. That's a really good point about, it's not just about you being subject to overwhelm. It's your brain is designed. To be able to escape lions, you


so, so like we have these, these biological adaptations that we basically need to adapt to [00:25:00] ourselves.


Right. And there's so many tools as we just discussed. So

there's lots of tools and really our best tool though, is ourselves as the coach and the more emotionally intelligent and aware and, and Interactive we are in that space. That's, that's really where the, the power comes from in coaching

and that's being connected and present, right?

Staying present to what's really here with your client is the foundation for it all.

Absolutely. And so if you're listening to this, you, you are a coach. Otherwise you wouldn't care what we're saying right now. You wouldn't even be listening to the

podcast. Maybe Sherry, I'll challenge you on that and say like.

They might actually have thought it was interesting from a human dynamics point of view, if they weren't a coach. And maybe now, what is this coaching thing? This sounds interesting.

That is possible. But the fact that our, and that our podcast is called the coach's journey podcast, they're most likely coaches.

And so I want you to reflect. [00:26:00] Yeah, as a coach, I want you to reflect on how much support and challenge do you have in your life as a coach? Because most of the coaches that that we are around, we're part of a community called the coaching mastery community. Most of the coaches that were around have expressed and I, I feel this myself.

I don't naturally have a whole bunch of coaches around me that understand me, understand what I do, get the complexity of what I do and how that impacts every area of my life. I don't have people naturally that, that understand that. So in order for me to be challenged as a coach to grow and to get even more experience and nuanced improvements and mastery, I need to be around other coaches.

So if you're listening to this and you're like, Oh, this sounds amazing. But how do I, like, I don't know what that process looks like. I encourage you to jump over to coaching mastery community. com. We have an amazing community of coaches [00:27:00] that challenges each other. So that we don't stay in overwhelm.

We don't feel stuck. We don't feel frustrated, but we're, we are able to grow in our coaching journey and in our businesses so that we can then continue to help more clients and to gain a richness in what we do.

Yeah. And, and. Coaches in our community, we challenge each other, right? Like not only not only as, as humans to grow, but as coaches to grow professional, professional development community.

And something like the coaching chain that we run for a pro membership. Every session you run it, and then you have this coaching master discussion where you're challenging each other to get better. What happened in that session? What went well, what needs work? And what do we learn and how can we apply that going forward?

That brings our whole community up because everybody in the chain is doing that and we talk about what's going on. So we're challenging each other as coaches and that's really important. If you're a coach and you are, do not have coaches challenging you as a coach to grow in your life. in a community where people are actively [00:28:00] communicating with you personally.

Then you really need to look at coaching mastery community, because that is like an essential component of your coaching professional development. If you're in this as a career.

Absolutely. We thank you so much for your time, energy, and attention to this podcast. The fact that you're listening to this tells us that you have a growth mindset around what you do and that is amazing and what is needed in our industry.

So thanks for listening. And for more information, check us out at coaching mastery community doc.

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